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Broggs first came to attention recording under his real name Henry
James in the early 1970’s. Having worked with producers including
Niney the Observer, Coxsone Dodd and Prince Far I, and a whole series
of albums for RAS Records in America, he has continued to make his
mark on the reggae business for more than 30 years.
Tell
us about your childhood
I man is a country man yu know, I born in the country. I was born
in Hanover, the Western part of Jamaica, in a hill them call Richmond.
Yes. And I’m still a poor man! I man born on 3 July 1954.
As for my childhood, me just run up & down inna the country,
with one pants on mi bottom and dem way there. Everything was
nice – nature, yunno? Do all kinda tings, chop wood for
mammy, look for water in river…
I get interested in music when I was a kid. I always walk around
and sing, I always listen to Bob Marley, Toots and the Maytals,
Freddie Mckay, Delroy Wilson, Gregory Isaacs, all a dem singers
from the early days. I used to sing going around in the country
bush, cah yu feel the spirit of the almighty, and I always wanted
to have Jah in I. As you know I was poor as a youth, all my friends
used to wish for riches, vanities… But when I see the shooting
star, I always wished I could find the true and living God. So
the spirit of Jah in I ever since I was a youth.
Many
artists in Jamaica are introduced to music through the church.
Did that happen with you?
I never used to go to church, I never liked church. Cah dem tell
I the wrong thing in church yunno, dem nah tell I about Selassie
I, dem only tell I about Jesus and dem ting deh. So when I find
Jah now, I used to have a bigger brother who live in Kingston,
and when he come back to the country to look for the family, he
see I grown up, and him tell me him taking me to Kingston. I was
17 and I do a likkle job in Kingston, working in a chicken factory
for 3 years.
I never liked the job, and I started to write some songs while
I worked. And I was starting to go amongst the rastaman on Camperdown
Road and sip chalice and reason. The first two songs I wrote were
called “Vank Out” & “African Sister.”
Then one day I was made redundant from my job. They came and asked
us if we wanted a cheque or if we wanted another job. Well I no
want no more work so I said I’ll take the cheque. Then I
go down to Randys and I see a man who used to sing with Winston
Jarrett & The Righteous Flames, a man named Junior. And I
said to him “Bwoy, mi want sing a song y’know dread.”
And he say “who you gonna sing a song for?”, and I
say “Me.” And him ask me if I have money, and I say
yeah man, mi have some money. So we go uptown and we buy two 2
track tapes, and we book Channel One studio, and I get Flabba
Holt and Bingy Bunny and we make “Vank Out” &
“African Sister.” Then I make a label, Jah Man label
and stick the tunes out. I sell it myself. It was 1972.
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So
you had your own label & produced yourself. Where did it lead
from there?
Then Bim Sherman used to live outside Rockfort, so while I was there
I used to go to P C Lloydie’s yard and sip chalice and sing.
And one day Bim Sherman see me and him say him hear Vank Out and
it wicked. So we start to trod together everywhere in Kingston –
King Tubbys, Harry J, Chancery Lane, and we sit in all the studios,
and I do a song for Bim Sherman named “Jack Why Did You Do
That?”
You were
also involved with Randys in those days?
After I start to sell Vank Out, a guy from Randys put it
pon a different label under a different name, he call it “Vampire.”
And they put out African Sister too. After Randys put out these
songs, I start get acquainted to them yunno. They control two stores
and I started to go from one store to the other.
How
did you get involved with Studio One?
Well I see Coxsone come down to Randys, and I said to him I have
a song I wanted to sing. So he called me round in the office and
asked me to sing, and I sing it fe him, and he said I must check
him Sunday morning at 9 o’clock. So I go inna the studio
and I sing a song fe him, on the Drifter riddim. And then mi go
back again and do “Sing A New Song.” So then I go
a few more times and I do like 8 more songs, and they release
one, “Sing A New Song.” He ask me what name I go under,
and I said Henry James, but him say he no like that name. So then
he said to me, “what other name do they call you man?”
So I said bwoy, Mr Dodd yunno, some people call me Peter, and
some people call me Broggs. So he said maybe we can put those
two together, and that’s how it come.
Coxsone was there producing but he have an engineer too, Scientist.
Scientist did come to me when he was a youth and ask me if Randys
want somebody to engineer upstairs, but I tell him “I want
you to go to Coxsone, if you go to Randys they not gonna make
you do that. And when I go to Coxsone to voice that song it was
Scientist taping it. It was nice working with Mr Dodd. Them time,
if you no pass thru Studio One, it come like you no artist yunno.
It come like a college, Studio One was like the Motown of reggae
music. It was 1973, 74 when I was there.
What
happened after the Studio One sessions? You also worked with Prince
Far I.
After Studio One I was on the streets. I coulda do a lot of
singles fe a lot of people, but I didn’t want to do it cah
most of them no want give you no money. But then I do a few tunes
for Prince Far I – I do “Jah Golden Throne”
for him and I also do it for Danny Allen. The version for Prince
Far I was called Higher Field Marshall, with Roots Radics at Harry
J studio. The version for Danny Allen was with Sly & Robbie
at Channel One.
Can
you tell us about your first album?
First album progressive youth. Chancery Lane is like an office.
All the artists them deh deh in that time. Anytime you want to
find an artist, you go a Chancery Lane. Them time there Gregory
Isaacs was going to tour in England. And Bingi Bunny come to me
and say him going to England with Gregory, and him like how I
sound and him want to take some records with him. So we book Channel
One Studio and we make two riddims. And dem time deh we never
have the money to voice them both at one time, so the next week
he book King Tubbys, one hour for me and one hour for a next guy.
And the next guy go first, and him take 45 minutes out of the
hour and him no voice him song yet. So I was outside and I was
singing, “Forward Natty Dread Forward….” And
they hear me and call me in and I do one cut and it sound better
than the other guy, you know them way there? So Bingi Bunny say
to me, “Broggs, you want do a album man?” And I say
yes. And I do all the rest of the songs in an hour, for the album
“Progressive Youth.” That was 1975, 76.
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There’s
a story that Dr Dread came to Jamaica specially to seek you out
and started RAS Records because of you.
After that I nah do too much. I just go around trying to find
honest people I can sing for and make a food, cos you know, struggle
those times… When I get a copy of Progressive Youth, I take
it to my friends and I say, “Rastaman, I’m so glad
I do this album cah somebody must discover it in the world. And
I just a trod inna the music business. Then a few years come up,
about 1980, and I was standing at Chancery Lane and I see a white
man pass me and him go up to Gregory Isaacs shop, and then a man
come from the shop and him tell me the whiteman a look for me.
So then I go to the whiteman, and him look at me and him say “I
think you’re a great singer, and I play your music on the
radio in America, and I write a song and I want you personally
to sing it.” So I take him in a backyard in the ghetto there,
and he sing the song to me, and him give me some money, and a
business card, and I did feel good, because that day I was so
hungry. And I checked my bredren after and I said Bredren, you
no know me is a prophet. You know me said I sing an album and
someone must discover it in the world. And them say ya man. Well
me say you know it happened. Me see a whiteman and him say him
love mi music and him want me sing a tune fe him…. And me
start sing it and dem say “Bwoy, a whiteman write dem tune
ya?” So me just call up Doctor Dread and me say “Doc,
bwoy yunno mi bredren in the ghetto dem love your tune yunno!
And dem say bwoy, dem cyan believe a whiteman write dis tune,
it too culture!” So him say to me now, do you have enough
songs to make an album? And me say yeah man. An ‘im start
tell me that ‘im gwan book Channel One and if I know some
musicians I must get them together for that date. So me just go
get Flabba Holt, Bingi Bunny, Roots Radics and we go inna the
studio and do Rastafari Liveth, and it a the first release pon
the RAS label.
You
spent a long period living in America after that?
After I do Rastafari Liveth I started to travel, I started to
go to America. I decided to do the RAS Posse tour. I go from corner
to corner, I think the only place I don’t go in America
is Alaska. I play on Indian reservations five times. People see
my music as life, so when I play for them it have meaning fe them
life. RAS have 7 album pon them label with me.
When you’re young and poor and struggling in Jamaica, you
want to go a foreign and you think it’s heaven. But it’s
not heaven yunno, and it take me 15 years to find out that it’s
not heaven. So now I know Jamaica is the place I want to be, otherwise
from Africa where my father is. So I trod around places but I
still love my nature. I love tropical island, you know them way
there? Cos when I inna them places I see God more. I see love
more. When you inna the big city, everybody separated. You know
them way there? Not so much love in the city. Cah what’s
in the city just war and crime and violence, thief and murderer.
I live inna the hills!
Right now my aim for the future is just to give praises to the
most high, the creator, yunno. He give me inspiration continually,
so I could get good words to say to the people of this world,
so this world could become a better living place for the people
in this time. If the people don’t see, they have to have
someone to open up their eyes, and to show them that we are human
beings, and could live together as one people. That is how the
father taught it to be.
PETER BROGGS INTERVIEWED BY STEVE MOSCO 29 APRIL 2002
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